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“I realized I was playing a role, and in fact, many different roles depending on the room I was in. These are stories, and I can change the stories. I can choose a different story, or I can choose another adventure at any moment or time.” – Heather Hubbard 

So much of what we experience in our lives is a result of the stories that we tell ourselves and others, and today’s Finding Brave guest shares how it is possible to rewrite these stories so that they empower you in ways that you never could have imagined.

Heather Hubbard is the Founder of Simple Courage – a media company, movement, and community focused on cultivating the courage needed for individual and collective change. Prior to starting her own company, Heather was a prominent, award-winning entertainment and intellectual property attorney and manager at one of the largest law firms in the U.S., as well as a go-to business advisor and strategist. She’s been featured in Forbes, NBC, Business Insider, Grammy Magazine and more. 

The personal stories and insights that Heather reveals in this conversation are so deeply honest and authentic, and what she shares is the epitome of courage. This is why I’m so pleased to introduce her to you. 

To learn more about Heather and her mission at Simple Courage, visit, where you can sign up for the newsletter list to be notified of her free upcoming challenge.

Highlights from this Episode:

  • What to be aware of with the stories we tell ourselves, or the stories that others tell you [6:10]

  • How Heather got interested in the concept of storytelling, and why she feels she’s always been a natural storyteller [9:48]

  • A crisis that she experienced at the age of 30 that led to intense self-exploration, plus the way that she realized she was playing certain roles in life [11:35]

  • The ways in which Heather now helps others choose a new story before the breakdown moment happens [13:32]

  • What she has learned from her journey about pushing through her own fears [16:38]

  • Why it’s crucial for everyone to nurture and care for their bodies and nervous systems [18:26]

  • How Heather discovered that she had trauma from her childhood that needed to be addressed [22:49]

  • The reasons that she focuses on presence in her Simple Courage work [28:08]

  • What we can control with past trauma, and what our goal should be when rewriting our own stories [31:28]

  • How she has empowered herself to choose each relationship she has in a new way, and how this has led to her being more courageous [32:50]

  •  Heather’s take on past lives and spirituality [40:50]

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“We are in charge, in the sense that we are choosing the story that we accept. So we are choosing the story that we are telling, but very rarely do we come up with that story on our own, from the beginning.” [6:17]

“It’s not just like we are born with a belief. We often think that it’s so ingrained in us, but it’s really important to look at where things are coming from. I also think it’s important to take ownership of the fact that you still get to choose the story you tell about yourself.” [7:09]

“I think if you are a speaker and entertainer, you naturally love a good story, so that probably always resonated with me.” [10:29]

“Constantly give yourself little things, little areas to push yourself outside of your comfort zone and treat it like an experiment.” [13:53]

“One of the things that I learned was that if I was going to start facing my fears, it’s not just a matter of pushing through, because pushing through just leaves you exhausted.” [17:25]

“In the same way that a mother or a father might nurture and care for their child, we have to do the same for our bodies and our nervous systems.” [18:26]

“It’s easier to deal with yourself when you realize that you’re just telling stories. That’s just human nature, and it’s not right or wrong, it’s not good or bad, it’s just what you want to choose in the moment.” [30:23] 

“I can beat myself up, or I can ask myself what I learned and how I can not let it happen again. That’s what allows and empowers me to choose each relationship in a new way.” [32:50]

“As you’re more courageous, it starts to impact every area of your life, not just a single issue.” [33:49]

“I now see [spirituality] as not one being trying to control everything. There are lots of beings that are exploring human form.” [43:05]

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