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“Confidence is an internal process. It’s all those decisions and all those conclusions you make. It has relatively little to do with what actually goes on in the world, and it has relatively everything to do with what goes on internally in this space between your ears.” – Dr. Nate Zinsser 

I’m excited to be back for Part 2 in our Finding Brave mini-series on confidence, where my special guest reveals the action steps and mindset shifts needed to overcome obstacles that often get in the way of us building our self-confidence.

​​Dr. Nate Zinsser is an expert in the psychology of human performance who consults for individuals and organizations seeking a competitive edge. Nate’s latest book, The Confident Mind: A Battle-Tested Guide for Unshakable Performance, hit shelves January 2022, and has been endorsed by two-time Super Bowl Champion and MVP Eli Manning, bestselling authors Jon Krakauer and Steven Pressfield, and US Olympic Bobsled Head Coach Mike Kohn.

Nate was a regular consultant to the Philadelphia Flyers and New York Giants for twelve seasons and has been a keynote speaker for General Electric, Facebook, McDonald’s, Staples, UBS, Major League Baseball, the NBA, and many more, as well as a consultant for the FBI Academy, the U.S. Army World Class Athlete Program, (mentoring four Olympic medalists), the U.S. Army Recruiting Command, and the U.S. Army Marksmanship Unit.

Since 1992, he has directed a cutting-edge applied sport psychology program at the United States Military Academy’s Center for Enhanced Performance, personally conducting over seventeen thousand individual training sessions and seven hundred team training sessions for cadets seeking the mental edge for athletic, academic, and military performance.

He also helped launch the highly successful magazine Sports Illustrated for Kids and was presented with an American Library Association award for his 1991 children’s book Dear Dr. Psych: A Kid’s Guide to Handling Sports Problems.

I truly believe that the work that Nate is doing is necessary for our success and greater wellbeing, and now is the time to make the choice to embrace these methods, follow the principles, and see where they take us. I’ve already incorporated what Nate shared in this conversation into my own life and work, and I would love to hear how you use the tips and strategies he shares to build your own confidence and self-trust in yourself. 

Highlights from this Episode:

  • Something that will help create a great deal of energy as you build your confidence [3:01]
  • Why it’s absolutely critical to be your own best friend [3:55]
  • How you can use both logic and creative fantasy to begin creating your own reality [5:54]
  • A reframe for failure and what you can do to protect your confidence from internally generated thoughts about yourself [10:02]
  • The factors that separate top performers from the others, and the way that our beliefs will produce our behaviors, and not vice versa [12:26]
  • How your work feeds your confidence, plus the one big thing that most people are missing with this [16:25]
  • The importance of knowing and trusting yourself in this process [17:59]
  • The way that Nate approaches his work with athletes in order to help raise their confidence and performance [24:24]
  • Whether or not he ever personally lacks confidence [26:59]
  • The biggest lessons that Nate learned by writing his latest book [29:31]

For More Information: 

Nate’s Latest Book, The Confident Mind: A Battle-Tested Guide for Unshakable Performance 

Resources Mentioned:

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Other resources mentioned:

Episode 212: (Part 1) How Confidence Is the Key, and How You Can Get It, Build It, and Keep It, with Dr. Nate Zinsser

Porcelain on Steel: Women of West Point’s Long Gray Line by Donna McAleer

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“We have been socialized to be our own harshest critic, exclusively. Be your own best friend, and be honest with yourself” [4:40] 

“I really encourage a good mix of logic when you’re doing simple things but fantasy when you’re looking long-term, and try to combine them in your preparation for performance.” [8:58] 

“If you got your butt handed to you, the first thing that you’ve got to do is decide that this disappointment or poor performance is not the definitive statement about who you are or what you can do.” [10:21] 

“There are not a million things that separate the top from the bottom. It’s just one little thing that is done on a consistent basis. Let’s find out what you can be good at and let’s make sure that you’re applying that time after time, day after day, and moment after moment.” [12:26] 

“We have to be very selective in what we choose to tell ourselves about ourselves. We’ve got to be careful about the kinds of conclusions that we are drawing from our experience.” [17:27] 

“If I don’t think I’m the right person at the right time for that moment, then I’ve got no business being there [for the client].” [26:18]

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