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“One of the things that haunts a lot of us is FOMO, and this is a challenge. It’s the fear of missing out. I think many folks would like to be committing to a long-term vision, but there’s often a lot of shiny objects along the way.” – Dorie Clark

It’s no secret that we’re pushed to the limit. Today’s professionals feel rushed, overwhelmed, and perennially behind. How can we break out of this endless cycle and create the kind of interesting, meaningful lives we all seek? Today’s Finding Brave guest is returning to the podcast to discuss her latest book, and what we can achieve by being a long-term thinker in a short-term world.

Dorie Clark is the author of the new book The Long Game: How to Be a Long-Term Thinker in a Short-Term World, and is a professor at Duke University’s Fuqua School of Business, and a Harvard Business Review author. She is ranked #1 Communication Coach in the World by the Marshall Goldsmith Coaching Leading Global Coaches Awards, and named one of the Top 50 Business Thinkers in the World by Thinkers50.

Dorie is also the author of Reinventing You, Stand Out and Entrepreneurial You, which Inc. magazine declared the #1 Leadership Book of 2015 and Forbes named it one of the Top 10 Business Books of the Year.

Previously, Dorie worked as a journalist, where she won two New England Press Association awards; a presidential campaign spokesperson; and a producer of a multiple Grammy-winning jazz album. She also invests in Broadway productions, and is a lyricist in BMI’s Tony-Award winning Lehman Engel Musical Theatre Advanced Workshop. 

In this episode, Dorie reveals how we can break out of our every day cycles in order to lead more interesting lives, the ways we can each create a “life portfolio” while building strategic patience, and the extraordinary ways that these powerful strategies can better our lives.

Highlights from this Episode:

  • What the long-game is, and why Dorie felt so compelled to write a book focusing on this concept [6:31]

  • The big reason members of society need to pay attention to what they are chasing [8:10]

  • How Dorie implements long-term thinking into her own life, and what often prevents others from committing to their long-term visions [9:42]

  • An example of how she reverse engineers the processes that she writes about in her books so that they are made clear to readers and listeners [12:48]

  • What it looks like to build a life portfolio, and why she thinks we all should have one [16:45]

  • The ways we can balance everyday life with the creation of our life portfolios [21:35

  • The main theme that Dorie’s latest book focuses on, and what she considers the one cardinal rule when connecting with others and building relationships with them [24:33]

  • What “white space” means, and why creating it is critical for our long-term success [30:27]

  • How her Masters in Theological Studies helps her now in the work she does daily [35:24]

For More Information:

Her Latest Book, The Long Game: How to Be a Long-Term Thinker in a Short-Term World 

Resources Mentioned:


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Dorie’s Free Long Game Strategic Thinking Self-Assessment & 88-Question Entrepreneurial You Self-Assessment Workbook

All of Her Books

Dorie’s Recognized Expert™ Course & Community 

Her Previous Appearance on Finding Brave 

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“Ultimately, [my new book] is about our lives and our careers, and how we can apply the principles of strategic thinking to hopefully get better outcomes, because so much in our society is optimized for the short-term.” [6:37]

“The problem is that we change strategies so often that we don’t even give ourselves a chance for the first strategy to work.” [10:06]

“Of course people can do things. They can do almost whatever they want if they work hard enough for a long enough duration. That’s the essence of the long game.” [16:26]

“You don’t just buy one stock. You invest in a portfolio, and that’s why you buy an index fund. Similarly, we need to do the same thing in our careers.” [17:46]

“In a society that prizes the short-term, so often where relationships go wrong, and where they die off before they even have a chance to bloom, is when people try to extract some value before it is appropriate.” [24:47]

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