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“People give up too quickly. They start a campaign and do SEO or paid ads, and if it doesn’t work out in the first month or two, or even three months, they stop. Again, you need to do something consistently for at least 6 months to a year in marketing online, and it gets better over time when you can fine tune it.” – Neil Patel

As an entrepreneur or owner of a business of any size, driving more traffic, sales, and leads is of the utmost importance. These are areas that I am always keen to learn more about, and today’s Finding Brave expert guest is just the person to teach us effective ways to build a brand, maximize exposure, and gain recognition for the products and services that we sell. 

Digital marketing executive Neil Patel is the CMO of NP Digital, a marketing agency serving start-ups, small businesses and publicly traded companies. A New York Times bestselling author, Neil was named a top influencer on the web by The Wall Street Journal. Forbes has shared that he is one of the top 10 marketers, and Entrepreneur Magazine has shared that has created one of the 100 most brilliant companies. 

Neil was recognized as a top 100 entrepreneur under the age of 30 by President Obama and a top 100 entrepreneur under the age of 35 by the United Nations.

It is refreshing to hear someone with Neil’s know-how and experience reveal straight-talking, real-life strategies for how to grow our business success today. I hope you’ll try the helpful strategies he shares, and as always, let us know how they work for you! 

Highlights from this Episode: 

  • The ways that digital marketing has changed over the past 5 years, and the key things small business owners need to understand about it right now [4:57]
  • A basic overview of Search Engine Optimization (SEO) and the benefits that it offers business owners [6:25]
  • What has to happen in order for you to rank high in Google searches [7:43]
  • What to do if you’re still getting traffic on a topic that you are no longer focusing on [11:16]
  • The first steps to take to start building a powerful brand that stands out from your competition [12:48]
  • Neil’s advice for getting press and recognition for your brand and business [14:29]
  • Why he is such a proponent of repurposing your content to distribute on multiple platforms [17:09]
  • Neil’s take on the importance of engaging with your followers on social media [17:53]
  • The way to vet an agency offering paid advertising services, plus what makes a great ad campaign [19:19]
  • How long he feels it will take to get traction online for your business [20:45]
  • The 3 biggest errors that Neil sees business owners making [23:57]
  • What to consider if you are looking to outsource some of the tasks involved in the marketing process [27:16]
  • How he was named a top 100 entrepreneur under the age of 30 by President Obama, and what you can do to be considered for the various top awards that exist [28:14]
  • Neil’s top 3 tools for driving more traffic, sales, and leads [30:51]

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Other resources mentioned:

Neil’s Ubersuggest Tool 

Neil’s books 

His Video, How To Do SEO For a Tiny Site with No Backlinks 

Neil’s YouTube channel

Help A Reporter (HARO)

Facebook Ad Library

Google Analytics, Google Search Console & Similarweb 

.ORG Impact Awards & Mediapost

Fiverr & Upwork

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“If you want to build a business and do well, you can’t just leverage SEO or paid advertising, you’ve got to leverage all forms of marketing. Go omnichannel, because it’s the only way to do well in the long run.” [5:57] 

“To build a brand, give a ton of value, and don’t ask for anything in exchange.” [13:22] 

“Nike is not Nike for no reason. If their shoes sucked and they’re uncomfortable [to wear], then no one would really care to wear them. If your product or service isn’t good or high in quality, your brand is not going to be as good.” [14:13] 

“They’re called social networks because you’re supposed to engage [with followers]. So I think if you don’t want to engage, you’re only going to get so far.” [17:53] 

“If you write content and you don’t push it, no one will see. So, make sure you just push it out to all the social platforms and share it.” [24:03] 

“Search engines and a lot of platforms like sites that specialize. You want to show that you’re an expert in a niche, so just conquer one niche first before you expand into too many others.” [24:38] 

“It’s a lot of work. If you aren’t willing to do the work, or pay people to do the work, then you’re not going to succeed because other people are.” [27:16]


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